When you open up to new things you don’t know, that’s where you can open up huge leverage and potential. In this episode, nonconformist empowerment expert Deberah Bringelson joins Penny Zenker as they discuss how practical quantum physics can play a role for you to take back time. From $0 to $602 million in twelve months, Deberah digs deeper into the use of quantum physics that has massively affected her and her client’s success. Get into some of the energy work Deberah does as she shares the four points to your point of power. Tune in and expand your energy and unblock the path to your dreams.
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Practical Quantum Physics: Making Life Easier And Fun With Deberah Bringelson
I’m excited to have Deberah Bringelson with me. She’s a nonconformist empowerment expert and one of the most profit-producing business growth authorities in the world. She’s known for her work with Richard Branson for helping in seventeen countries to grow 100% to over 3,000% in under twelve months. Her proprietary Power of 3 Formula weaves manifestation and quantum teachings. That’s what we’re going to be talking about is how we’ll use quantum physics to take back time.
She does that with highly innovative business strategies. She’s an internationally recognized speaker, author, co-authoring Practical Business Wisdom and Magic with Joe Vitale from The Secret. Deberah and I know each other, just to give a little history, as we worked together at Business Breakthroughs International, that’s a joint venture between Tony Robbins and Chet Holmes. I knew immediately interacting with Deberah, she is one smart cookie and they only hired a smart cookie. Deberah, I’m excited to have you here to talk about quantum physics and how that can play a role for people because they’ll already be like, “What?”
Thank you. I’m thrilled to be here.
Tell me why quantum physics. That sounds scientific. Why are we talking about that?
I call it practical quantum physics because when you say science to somebody and they’re like, “That’s a lot of stuff that I don’t want to know and a lot of math.” Anyone who knows me knows that Deberah does not do math. It’s practically how do you use metaphysics, quantum physics to make your life easier and a lot more fun. I started learning about it in my early twenties. I came from a dysfunctional, abusive background and things were not working out well for me. I was looking for solutions for my own life. I’m Native American and I interacted with some shaman and some spiritual teachers. I started down the path of learning how to use the power of my frequency and vibration to create things that I wanted to create. Initially, as I was starting my business consulting career, I didn’t talk about it at all because I was afraid that people would think I was crazy.
It sounds a little bit woo-woo. People that are reading, they’re like, “I’m not going to read this.” It’s not woo-woo, right?
It’s practical. If you think going from $0 revenue to $602 million revenue in twelve months using quantum physics is woo-woo, then fine.
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I’ll take me some woo-woo right there. That’s the most important thing that people understand is we have to be open to things that we don’t know and don’t understand because that’s where we can open up huge leverage and huge potential. If you’re reading this and you have any preconceived opinion, open up and let’s listen because if it could create that growth, what if? Keep your mind open.
That’s what I started discovering personally is I was using it myself and I was discovering that things were showing up that I wasn’t working hard for. A lot of us in Western culture, we’ve been taught nose to the grindstone. You’ve got to work hard and put in those hours. I started learning life is meant to be about having fun and experiences, not just working around the clock. What I learned in my own life is as I was using this, things would be a lot easier. I started using it with clients, not stepping out and telling them what I was doing, but I was doing it anyway and then I started teaching.
I put in all of the business things that should have been working and it wasn’t after about eight months or so. I said to her, “You’re blocking money. You’re not allowing it into your experience,” and we got into it. I did some of the energetic work that I was doing with myself and within eight days, she made $298 million. At the end of the twelve months that we were working together, she made $602 million. I was like, “I’m going to start talking about this.”
Tell us what was something like a practice that we can do that will help us to open up and make things easier for us. Is there a practice that you can share?
What I did with her is I did some energetic work. There are four points to your point of power that create your reality. When you get all four points lined up together, then things become a lot easier. Those four points, they’re connected. It’s your thoughts and emotion. Have you ever have somebody who cuts you off and you start looping about it you’re like, “You cut me off?” It’s all in your head, those emotions. They’re your core beliefs that are in your body. It’s things that you feel. Your body was designed to give you information but we’ve been taught to shut that down.
If you still have the hairs that rise on the back of your head, that’s a little bit of warning but if you learned to tap into what’s happening in your body and your feelings, your core beliefs and your feelings go together, and your thoughts and emotions go together. Your core beliefs are things. It’s not the things that you’re walking into a cocktail party and say, “My business is in trouble and I don’t feel like I’m good or smart enough, or whatever.” Those are the things that are embedded because how you were treated by a teacher, parent, or society as a whole, you’re not smart enough or good enough, whatever. One hundred percent of the people that I work with have some piece of not good enough.
We all do. This is my personal belief that’s what we’re here to do is to overcome that because everybody has a little bit of that and we are in that search to realize that we are enough and to untap those limitations.

Practical Quantum Physics: Your body cannot hold opposite frequencies, so you can’t hold fear and joy at the same time.
We all have that. One of the things that we have to understand is though all of those come together, we may say, “I’m smart enough. I’m going to close this $100 million deal.” If our core beliefs say, “No, I’m not good enough.” That’s going to take control. We want to clear that out. That’s what I did with her. Let’s do this quickly. There’s a lot going on in the world and it’s got us all unsettled. If we’re feeling fear, fear is a low vibration, low-frequency energy. Joy and love are much significantly higher than that. Let’s stop for a moment, everybody, take a nice breath, settle into our body, call in the energy and frequency of joy.
If you can’t call that in, think of a joyful time like when you were gazing at your newborn baby space, playing in the surf of the ocean, or something joyful and feel that energy. Your body cannot hold opposite frequencies. You can’t hold fear and joy at the same time. Let’s say you’re getting ready to go into a big meeting to close a deal. Stop for a minute before you do that. Take a breath and rest in the energy of joy for a moment. You walk in at a higher frequency and here’s what happens. You’re looking out in your room and you’re saying, “There’s all this space in here. There’s space between me and the computer. There’s space between me and the wall.” That space is full of little filaments of energy that are going on and connecting to everything in the world. As you walk into your meeting or if you do it electronically, that’s fine. In a frequency of joy, you connect to the other people in that same frequency of joy and you create a higher level of experience. Did you feel that when I asked you to call in the higher frequency of joy? Could you feel that in your body?
Absolutely, right away. I am more familiar with doing that but it’s easy because all you need to do is you let us through that is to think of a time when you felt it, when you were immersed in it. We’re trained. We do that. We can listen to a song and that’ll take us right back to a particular time. If we need to get there through a song, sometimes I think about a time when I laughed hard that milk came out my nose type of thing, my stomach hurt, and my cheeks hurt. You can easily find those moments. As you said, once you have them, you can easily bring those back because those are ones that you call upon.
Let’s make this practical. Let’s say you are trying to close a deal or make a sale or somebody on your sales team is. They’ve got all this going on, these thoughts in the back of their head, “I’ve to make this sale because I need to pay the mortgage,” or “My dad told me I would never be anything and I’m going to blow this.” They walk into the sales conversation and they’re all, “I’m great. My product is great.” The person they’re talking to feels the energy of I’m not good enough for whatever it is. This isn’t some woo-woo thing. There are machines that can measure the energy.
We can measure it up to about 8 feet but we believe that it goes significantly farther than that. It might be thousands of miles. You’re saying, “I’m great. My products are great.” The energy that you’re exuding, the frequency is, “I don’t believe in this product. I don’t believe in myself.” What happens is the person on the other end, they may not know why they don’t trust you but they don’t because they feel that disconnect and the sale gets lost. Practically, doing something like calling in the frequency of joy, that higher level, to move out those fears will help in making sales, in connecting with your spouse, whatever it is.
When I think about fear it’s usually centered on myself. Fear is something about yourself. Whenever I’m focused on someone else, that tends to bring joy but other types of gratitude, feelings, more collaboration, and giving. I always find that when I’m going on stage, because I speak a lot, and I get nervous, it’s because I’m thinking about myself and what they’re going to think of me. As soon as I turn my energy towards the audience, the value that I’m delivering, and the individual faces then that fear goes away and focused on them. Is that part of that type of energy exchange as well, self versus others?
It can be and it can be different for everyone. I go to what we did and that’s where I like to start with people so they can feel and understand what the difference is.
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What do you find is the biggest mistake that people are making in their business that they get caught up in this fear or in any type of resistance that keeps them moving forward?
I don’t necessarily think of it as a mistake but I do think of it as what are the layers that are causing you to behave in a certain way. I teach quantum metaphysics classes in addition to my corporate clients and one of the things that I always teach is to ask the question, what’s under that? If you have a situation that’s not working or you have thoughts that are getting in your way, what’s under that? What’s causing that? We play the ‘What’s Under That’ game. Sometimes we go down 10 or 15 levels until we get to it. It’s not that they’re making mistakes, it’s that they’re making decisions based on fear and an energy that keeps things constricted.
We are unlimited beings. If we can think it, we can have it. If we are sending the right energy out into the universe, the universe will deliver it back to us and you can call it source, God, or universe, whatever you want to call it but it will be delivered back to you. It’s our human perspective that we’ve been taught. You’re only going to make this much money or if you’re in this profession, this is how it’s set up to work and you can’t bust out of it. None of that is true. I and my clients have had tons of crazy experiences that prove that it’s not true but we have to get down to the root of what’s going on which, to be honest with you, the root is some version of, “I’m not enough.” We have to expand our energy out of that.
How do you do that? How do you expand your energy out of that if you’ve been in it for many years? This is something most people have been practicing for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 plus years.
The first step is to understand what your limiting beliefs are and be willing to let those go. I was talking to a woman about this. I was talking about fears and all the fear that’s happening in the world. She was so committed to fear. She thought fears were valuable. If that’s where you are, you’re not going to expand out of it. You have to be willing to acknowledge and move out of it. The other piece of it is to be willing to start to change your energy and vibration. I have a free Facebook group where I do a lot of guided processes to take people past fear, to help them understand how to lift to a higher octave. Our lives and our bodies are like an orchestra playing different notes of music. As you attached to a note of money or lack of money, you attach to a note of love or lack of love, it’s understanding how you know what you’re attached to, expand beyond that, and knowing where you’re going.
I’m trying to make this clear. One of the things that’s important is to focus on where you’re going, what you want, and stop the focus on what you don’t want. That’s number one. As you get engaged with people and you’ll notice that a lot of times with people, “I broke my hip. I’m taking more pills.” I won’t have those conversations myself. What I tell people when you talk to me is if you start marching down that path of your story, I will cut you off because I love you too much to let you do that to yourself.
We get caught up in our own stories. For the people reading, you said if you’re more committed to your fear than your joy then it’s clear what you’re going to get. You’re going to get more fear. That is clear in creating that awareness of where a commitment is. As you said, working with people like yourself and myself, the people who can guide you through that process will help you because I was saying to you before we got on is often, it’s hard to see ourselves. I’m sure you and I work with the coach because we all have blind spots, we do get stuck in our stories, and we have to have people calling us out. We don’t always call ourselves out on it. That’s part of the process as well. There are two questions that I ask every guest and I wanted to get your opinion on this too. How do you define productivity and why?

Practical Quantum Physics: Spend some time figuring out where you’re energetically holding yourself back and then start doing the right processes to clear those away.
I’m different than a lot of people. Productivity for me isn’t doing. It’s creating. When I think of what I do to be productive, there’s a good part of my day that I’m meditating and reading. It’s not about grinding and hustling at all. It’s about I will spend hours meditating if I need to, to get myself clear energetically and in alignment before I’ll do a task. I know that when I put in that energetic time, I don’t want to say effort, but time investment, it makes the results come faster and easier. There are things that I’ll think about it as I needed this. Here’s an example. This isn’t a business thing but I needed some trees trimmed and I wanted it to happen before winter and magically, my neighbor has a new boyfriend who had a tall ladder and he came over and trimmed my trees.
I didn’t even have to do anything to make it happen. One of my fun experiences in my professional life was when I was doing the work with Richard Branson and I wanted to throw this big party. I had no budget, and seven days to make it happen. I could have served him water in paper cups. That was how big my budget was. I put it out there to the universe. I did the energetic investment and a couple of days, somebody called me on my cell phone and I don’t give my cell phone number out to anyone, they said, “I hear you want to host a party for Richard Branson, the Top F 100 and 500 companies in the San Francisco Bay Area.”
I said, “Yes.” She said, “I hear you’re looking for a venue. I have a nice home.” Palatial Estate is what it was. “You can have it in my home. I’ll cover the catering costs.” I said, “That’s great. Let’s invite all of these people. I may know who they are and they have a list but I don’t have their contact information. We’re now four days out.” She said, “I know somebody who does.” The owner of this one particular restaurant. In seven days, I did nothing other than toss it to the universe and then help coordinate whatever. Somebody came in and cover the cost of everything. It was fabulous. People were invited, they showed up, and ended up closing the deal for me. That’s how that investment leads to being what is productive.
By the way, nobody that I’ve interviewed has had the same definition for productivity. I used to say productivity is like a feeling, At the end of the day, did you do something that was in alignment with your goals and your values and then you feel productive? It’s happiness. It’s only you can define because we’re not machines. It’s not about input and output. It’s different. Lastly, I wanted to ask you, a lot of times when people are looking for productivity tips and ways to work smarter, they want to know the shortcuts. We want to know what’s that one activity that makes things easier, as you said, and gets us to our result faster. What’s your favorite shortcut?
I meditate.
That’s what I thought you were going to say since you brought that in. Talk a little bit about how that makes things easier and faster for you. Is there anything else that you wanted to share around that as a shortcut?
I meditate in different ways when I have different needs. If I’m stressed or if I get into a situation of fear, for some reason, I will do the meditation of what I like. I do guided processes that will clear that out. The client that I was talking about that went to $600 to $2 million in twelve months, she believed that she didn’t deserve money, we had to clear that out so I’ll do that. If I want to meditate to get to a higher dimension, I will do that. I mix up my meditation. For me, it’s not necessarily sitting and being quiet. The first thing that I would encourage everyone to do is spend some time figuring out where they’re energetically holding themselves back and then start doing the right processes to clear those away.
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I’m sure there are a lot of people who are intrigued. We left them with the what if. They could get that one thing that’s holding them back and breakthrough it. Where can they find more information about you? You said you had a Facebook group that people could follow.
There is a Facebook group and it’s called Deberah Bringelson Quantum Success Academy. There’s no charge to join. There are a lot of free videos and content in there on the quantum metaphysics aspect. I’m also a business consultant. There are business tools in there as well. If they want a free download of the guided process that I used with that client that we’ve been talking about, they can go to 7Blueprint.com and that’s my entire seven-step business building blueprint. As an add-on bonus thing, there’s the guided process and it’s all free.
You guys better go there to 7Blueprint.com and check it out. As I said, Deberah and I have worked together. If this attracted you to Tony Robbins, what attracted me is what we did at Business Breakthroughs. It was both the mindset and business aspect. There are few people who can handle both aspects. They can go to your depth of clearing the various different elements in the mindset but then also to have practical strategies that will then double, triple, and whatever that percentages of your business. That’s powerful. For those of you who are reading, check it out.
I would agree with you. There are many people that say, “I haven’t been able to make all of this cosmic stuff work for me.” The problem is there are too many people out there who don’t have a depth of knowledge and understanding. They’re teaching it at a surface level. Once you understand it does start to move in a joyful way.
Thank you. Is there anything else you wanted to share before we sign off?
I believe that you can do it because you are the power of the universe. What you have in you is the exact same power that moves mountains, that the greatest mystics of the world have used. It takes a little bit of investment to be able to start shifting. You can do it.
You can do it. It’s time for you to tap into your power and to take back time, take back joy because that is something that we do need to take back. Some of us work too much. I’m a recovering perfectionist, I get it. It is time to take back your power, realize, and recognize what you’ve got inside of you. Thank you all for being here. Thanks, Deberah.
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- Deberah Bringelson Quantum Success Academy – Facebook Group
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About Deberah Bringelson
Your Strategic Solutions Founder, Deberah Bringelson has been consulting with large corporations for almost 30 years. As her verified results demonstrate, she is one of the most profit-producing Business Growth and Empowerment Experts in the world.
Deberah is probably best known for her creative ingenuity, tenacity, and leadership while negotiating the Virgin America deal between Sir Richard Branson and Arnold Schwarzenegger, for which she received the “Steal of the Year” award, for the deal that never should have happened. Deberah is an internationally recognized Business Development and Empowerment Expert, who has coached C-Suite Executives and consulted with companies in 16 countries.
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