Understanding The Law Of Attraction And Changing The Subconscious Level Of Our Minds With Victoria Gallagher

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TBT 179 | Law Of Attraction


The life you deserve is just within your reach. You just need to shift your focus to what is really important to you and manifest it into reality. Today’s guest helps us understand this core principle of the law of attraction. Victoria Gallagher is a worldwide leader in hypnotherapy, a bestselling author, international speaker, life success coach, and renowned authority on the law of attraction. Tune in as she joins Penny Zenker in this conversation and learn how to live a life aligned with your dreams!

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Understanding The Law Of Attraction And Changing The Subconscious Level Of Our Minds With Victoria Gallagher

I’m excited to have Victoria Gallagher with me. She’s a worldwide leader in Hypnotherapy, a bestselling author, international speaker, life success coach and renowned authority on the Law of Attraction. She’s dedicated her life to empowering people all over the world to successfully live a life of liberty and aligned with their dreams through her effective meditative recordings and online courses.

Victoria, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much. It’s nice to finally meet you, Penny and it’s a pleasure being on your show.

Thank you. Likewise. We were having a little conversation about the Law of Attraction. Some people get it and some people don’t get it so I’m interested to unravel what that is in layman’s terms and why it can help people to take back time.

It really does go right with the title of the show, Taking Back Time, because when we divert our attention, our attention gets distracted all over the place with all different kinds of goals, obstacles and things that we’re focusing on. Those things are taking us further away and causing us to take more time to achieve our goals and manifest success.

Law of Attraction, in real practical terms, is all about getting yourself fully in alignment with your desire, how you’re thinking and visualizing your desire, the emotions, feelings and vibration that you have about that desire, the action steps that you’re taking toward that, listening to your intuition about that and having that gratitude for what you’ve already manifested. In a nutshell, it’s taking responsibility for having what you want. I call myself a focusologist. One of the core principles of becoming a focusologist, we’re controlling and directing what I call the energy of our attention and thoughts. In a way, it’s just shifting our focus to align our goals with the tasks that we’re doing and making everything else less important.

In the very simplest, could it also be that?

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Law Of Attraction: The law of attraction is all about getting yourself fully in alignment with your desire, how you’re thinking about your desire, how you’re visualizing your desire, and the action steps that you’re taking toward that.


It really is. It’s prioritizing, too. If you really think about it, especially entrepreneurs. We’re all over the place. You want to write that book and you want to do your public speaking. It’s almost impossible to multitask and do multiple things at the same time. Multitasking is a myth.

We still do it because it releases dopamine for us. It gives us this immediate hit where we’re like, “This feels good,” and not realizing that it just took us twice as long to do something so it’s not good.

The other day, I’m like, “I’ve proven that wrong. I’m sitting on the toilet and I’m checking my phone. I’m multitasking,” but I’m really not. I’m switching focus back and forth. You can only focus on one thing at a time so the most efficient way to create what we want is to keep our attention on that one thing until.

The reason why a lot of people fail to manifest to get what they want is that they only have a set amount of time and patience that they’re willing to devote to having that thing. If they don’t get it by a certain period of time, then it doesn’t work. The Law of Attraction failed and didn’t work. It’s about focusing on what is super important to you and if something is important enough to you, you will focus on it until you get it.

We do give up a little too easily at times so it is discipline as well. I’m just curious, how did this become your area of expertise? Did you have a moment? What happened that this became your focus?

I had several moments. I had the first moment when I was eighteen and my mom introduced me to this little book called Total Self-Confidence by Dr. Robert Anthony. You can only imagine why she might have introduced me to that book at the age of eighteen. I did not have a real easy childhood. This was a really helpful tool and it was my first introduction to the whole world of self-help and self-hypnosis.

He talked a lot about self-hypnosis, visualizing, affirmations, journaling and writing. All those things are in that book. It was really great when I was eighteen but then, I got distracted from the whole self-help arena until about ten years later when I was a fairly successful stockbroker. I was working at a brokerage firm. I have been doing that for six years. I was successful at it. I’m making the six-figure income but then I just found myself not able to get out of bed.

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I was anxious, depressed, had all these issues and I found myself seated at a personal development four-day seminar where they talked a lot about “to think is to create” and the power of the mind. It was four days of brainwashing but brainwashing in a good sense. We did a lot of closed-eye techniques and in that moment where I decided, “This is my new life path. This is the direction that I want to go and I just didn’t know exactly what it would look like.” I started writing these visualization scripts and trying to figure out how do I get some credentials?

I stumbled upon a hypnotherapy course. Within a couple of weeks, I was seated in a class taking hypnotherapy and before you know it, I was getting my business license and was asked to make a decision to either resign from my position as a stockbroker or continue on with my no figure a year job as a hypnotherapist. I went with the no figure a year job as a hypnotherapist and years later, I have one of the number one websites where I sell these amazing hypnotherapy programs, my app HypnoCloud and written four books so it was a good decision.

When you described the Law of Attraction, you said intuition. All those things that you talked about, you went with that intuition, that gut feel of this is where I need to be and things just started happening. You found yourself in a class then this. It’s interesting when we follow what feels like it makes sense to us then things unravel and find their way to put that next stone down, even though you don’t know where the path goes. It’s like Indiana Jones when he starts to step onto this opening to make the crossing. He’s making this leap of faith and as he steps, each stone becomes visible. It sounds like that was your path for some time.

I herk again when you said, “Makes sense.” What I was doing, quitting a six-figure a year job and going into a situation where all I was doing was creating debt because I had a lease and all these new bills with nothing to pay them with except for my retirement savings, which I went through over a year and a half. None of that made sense on the logical level of mind and most people were not on my rooting team. They wanted me to win but like most people, they were saying, “You need to think about getting a job or getting your job back or maybe this isn’t a good idea.” I hung in there the first year and a half. I had to file for bankruptcy, found myself in the hospital with a collapsed lung and no insurance.

All of those two things, it’s an afterthought.

I never would have thought I needed to keep my insurance plan. I was trying to save money. All of that stuff would have knocked most people back into employment or something along those lines. It was just something I knew inside that I had to do and I had to do it that way. I’m so fortunate for the opportunity. Most people are not lucky enough to have a boss that was enough of a jerk to help me make that decision. If I could go back and thank him for that, I would.

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Law Of Attraction: If somebody wants to get on their path, you want to start the habit of meditating and journaling on a daily basis.


We never know where things are going to take us but there might be some people out there that’s like, “Don’t go and quit your job yet. Let’s think about this.” What would you say to people who feel like they’re not on their path or there’s something that they really want but they’re not sure how to get it? What would you say would be the first thing that makes sense for them to do? What’s the next step?

If somebody wants to get on their path, you want to start the habit of meditating and journaling on a daily basis because what will happen when you go into silent meditation, you are going into a listening mode and then you’re continuing that process through the journaling and really writing down what ideas come to you. When you notice patterns begin to arise, start to see opportunities because you’re focusing on having something new developed for you.

If you’re not sure, those are two really great ways to help you get clear on what it is that you want to do. Hypnosis is just another avenue that can open your subconscious mind because your subconscious mind has all the answers. It knows. You know down deep inside what it is that you want. We all have a little bit of a divine plan that we can follow.

We don’t have to follow it but if we do follow it, our life is going to be easier. In a lot of ways, manifesting comes down to following that divine plan and getting in touch with what that true deep desire is that’s within us all. There’s a seed. You were born with that seed to do something amazing, and we all have special gifts. Even acknowledging that you do have gifts, you are creative, artistic, you do have an imagination that you can tap into and everybody has access to that. Hypnosis is another wonderful way that you can explore, tap into and get answers from the imagination.

Some other people might be thinking like I was when I was younger. For whatever reason, I had in my head, someone told me this or maybe I was comparing myself but it felt like I’m not creative. I’m not the one to write a song or two. I did write some poems and some poetry but for some reason, I just thought I wasn’t creative.

As I got older, I realized that we all show creativity in such a different way. It doesn’t mean you’re not creative in the way that they are when you compare yourself to someone else. It’s so important that each one of us taps into our own. Stop comparing. It’s okay to want something and move in a direction but in order to do that, we also have to appreciate ourselves. That’s why you started with that book about self-confidence. I believe that that’s how we do tap into our intuition.

I want to put that out there for the audience that we all have different ways that we can visualize or imagine things. For some people, they can just close their eyes, walk into a new world and other people might need to be brought through a guided meditation. Everybody is different and that’s awesome.

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That competitiveness stifles creativity and our creativity gets stifled from the time that we start going to school. We are born extremely creative and imaginative until we go to school and we’re taught that we need to stay within the lines and stop daydreaming. It’s constantly shutting it down. Your creativity may look entirely different. I’m not the best artist in the world or the best painter but I sure as heck know how to write a good book or a good hypnosis script. That’s where my creativity is.

There are thousands of different avenues a person can explore to be creative. You might be creative in the kitchen, in the bedroom, or how to care for your children. It doesn’t just look like art. Artistic is one way to be creative but there are many different ways. You can be creative with the way that you order your coffee at Starbucks.

What else do you think is an important lesson or tip that you can give the audience as it relates to the work that you’re doing in setting that dream and achieving that dream?

The biggest thing for people to understand and how I like to bridge the gap between the Law of Attraction and with hypnosis, my two main loves in this world, is it really comes down to our minds. The power of using our minds properly. We are far more than what we realize. If you look out at the sea and you see the tip of the iceberg. The tip of the iceberg is your conscious mind. That’s the part of the mind that everybody tries to do things. They try to lose weight, quit smoking, reduce their stress, manifest their dreams and their goals from this conscious state of mind.

It’s fortunate and unfortunate but we have, as very fortunate because it’s the thing that runs the show. The thing that’s keeping us alive is our subconscious mind. In our subconscious mind, it’s running our heartbeat, our brains, all the blood that runs through our veins, our breathing and our blinking, everything. It’s every emotion, every memory and every experience that you’ve ever had. Its main job is to keep you safe, secure and alive.

It takes that job so seriously that it keeps you from doing things that it perceives would be unsafe. What’s unsafe? Pretty much anything that’s different from what you’re doing right now. Anything that is considered a change because change represents stress. Even if you’re doing something amazing, like buying a house, getting a new job or going on a date with somebody for the first time, that is represented as stress and it really tries to keep you from that stress. Ultimately, if we want to achieve any goal in our life, That change begins at the subconscious level of mind.

We’ve got to trick the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind does its job well but it’s also not smart. It doesn’t know the difference between what’s real and what’s imagined so tapping into that imagination and using anything to get that subconscious mind to have new pictures, new beliefs, new ideas and new thoughts running through that says, “This is the way life is.” When you get the subconscious mind to buy-in to whatever it is that you want, it has no choice.

It has to make that happen. The key is to get through to that subconscious mind. The hard part is to change those deep programs that keep you from having what you want. That would be my biggest tip. Stop trying to influence everything with your conscious mind because your subconscious mind is going to sabotage you every time and you’ve got to change the beliefs in the subconscious mind.

Those people are thinking, “I don’t know about this.” Is there any science or a way that they can prove to themselves that this works with just a little toe-in-the-water type of thing?

Yes, absolutely. Your subconscious mind runs all of your emotions and your automatic responses so even if you think about a lemon, for example. If you put a lemon in your mind and you imagine cutting that lemon in half, taking that lemon and putting it up to your nose then putting it close to your mouth, you’re using the power of visualization. You’re experiencing this. You’re imagining this in your mind. You lick that lemon with your mind. Notice what is happening. There’s proof that you’ve just interacted. Why would your mouth salivate if you were controlling the process with your conscious mind? That right there is just one way to show yourself that the subconscious mind is there.

It has power over us. It’s changing our body chemistry to create that saliva or when we get goosebumps when you’re watching a scary movie. You’re not in danger but we are in the surroundings that have our senses being sucked in our subconscious.

You’re sitting there and watching a screen and then all of a sudden, you gasp at the scary parts or you’re crying at the sad parts. That’s not logical. That’s not coming from your conscious mind. You’re not willing yourself to feel that way. It’s coming naturally from the subconscious part of the mind.

It’s not exactly what you’re talking about but I think it’s the same. They would have basketball players visualize doing a layup. They had one group that visualize doing the layup and then they had the other group that practiced the layup every day. After 30 days, they compared the progress of the two groups and they were equally progressing. Isn’t that a scientific type of experiment that shows that visualization has that power? That it’s the same as actually experiencing it?

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Law Of Attraction: Hypnosis is just another avenue that can really open your subconscious mind, because your subconscious mind has all the answers.


Absolutely. There’s another study that was done. This one just blows my mind. It’s a study done on these thirteen people in Japan. It was a Poison Ivy study. They rubbed a harmless substance and they told them that this was Poison Ivy on one of their arms. They told all of them that this was Poison Ivy, thirteen of these people and it was a completely harmless substance. On the other arm, they rubbed the actual Poison Ivy and they told them that that was the harmless substance so they reversed it.

All thirteen people broke out on the arm with the harmless substance was rubbed. Only two broke out with the actual Poison Ivy. They expect it to break out where they thought that they were rubbing Poison Ivy, and they physically created this effect. They do this all the time where they can relax a bit and they can put a needle all the way through your arm. People go into hypnosis to have dental work done. It’s all kinds of crazy things.

We know about the placebo effect, which has had thousands of studies that show that the sugar pill has the same impact as the actual medication.

There’s so much research into the power of suggestion and auto-suggestion and telling yourself that something is true. It really just comes down to believing at that subconscious level of mind. Whatever the subconscious mind believes will happen, it’ll make happen.

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Thank you. As we’re coming to the end of our show, I could sit here and we could chat about this. I love this stuff. I’m a firm believer that it matters and it does help us take back our time because it means that we’re putting our focus and our energy where it matters that that’s going to best support us. That’s really important. What would be any last comments, tips or suggestions? What did I not ask you that you think that I should have asked you?

I would just dovetail on what you said there about this is a way that you can save a lot of time. Hypnosis doesn’t work like a magic pill. You do have to want things to happen. You do have to listen to the suggestions for a period of time but it’s a much more efficient way. You could spend years trying to talk yourself into a new habit or behavior. Every time you try to start a new habit at the beginning of the year, you end up five days later back in your old ways. This is why. This is a much more efficient, effective, time-saving way to get into and hack your brain to do the things that you want and do them that much faster.

It’s a shortcut.

It is a shorter cut. It’s not a magic pill. There is no such thing as any magic fairy dust. This is all very logical, common sense for the logical people out there. It’s a real step-by-step approach to doing things. It just is going to get the work done where the work is actually done in the part of your mind that makes those things happen. That would be my last little tip there.

Where do people find out more about you, these recordings and the books that you’ve written?

The biggest and the best way to really access me is through my HypnoCloud app. Go to the App Store and download HypnoCloud, you’re going to get on my mailing list. You’ll actually learn more about all of the things Victoria. In the app, there are twelve free sessions. That’s going to give you a taste of hypnosis. There’s mastering the Law of Attraction and reducing your stress. I give a lot of content away for free in the app so that you can try things out, learn about hypnosis and decide whether you want to do the free trial and get access to my entire library. I would suggest going there. You can also go to VictoriaMGallagher.com and that’s where you can find out about all my other great stuff.

Thank you so much.

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Law Of Attraction: Stop trying to influence everything with your conscious mind because your subconscious mind is going to sabotage you every time.


Thank you so much. I really appreciate being on your show and thank you for asking great questions.

Thank you all for being here because all of those great questions were for you trying to get in your head and think about, “What would they be asking? What are the challenges that you might be experiencing?” The main core is that we have to stop trying to force behavior change and understand how our mind works so that we can work with it. That’s really what Victoria was saying.

The first thing is being aware and then finding some of the techniques that are going help you to utilize that so that you can get what you want in your life whether it’s better health, better relationships, a better job, or more peace of mind. It’s there for the taking. You just need to know some of those mindset shortcuts to help you get there and Victoria’s app is going to do that for you. It will give you a headstart and understanding of how to use it. At the end of the day, find yourself some resources. That’s what we’re here for. It’s to help provide you with great resources. Thank you for being here. We’ll see you in the next episode.

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About Victoria Gallagher

TBT 179 | Law Of AttractionVictoria Gallagher is a worldwide leader in Hypnotherapy, a best-selling author, international speaker, life success coach, and renowned authority on the Law of Attraction. She has dedicated her life to empowering people all over the world to successfully live a life of liberty, aligned with their dreams through her effective meditative recordings and online courses.

As a tireless personal growth enthusiast herself, Victoria hosts the popular Law of Attraction show The Power of Your Mind podcast featuring industry experts. The Power of Your Mind is a self help podcast helping listeners unleash the power of their mind.

Victoria Gallagher shares over 20 years of wisdom and techniques in hypnotherapy, Law of Attraction, visualization, NLP, meditation, personal growth, positive affirmations and other effective methods to help listeners tap into the great power which resides in their mind, and become the best version of themselves.